How politics in the US works...

"505Turbeaux" (505turbeaux) 11/21/2014 at 10:37 • Filed to: None

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pitiful: "Well, I'm gonna loan you not only my name, but lend you some money as well. I'm gonna contribute to your campaign.' And that's all good. That's how this process works."

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burntartichoke > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 10:40

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Simple, politics in the US doesn't work.

Coty > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 10:41

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No, this is how it works.

It don't.

OPPOsaurus WRX > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 10:41

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i'm pretty sure its just give me all your $ and you can go cry about it to someone else. O and do as I say not as I do.

LappingLuke > burntartichoke 11/21/2014 at 10:45

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Politics doesn't work anywhere...

burntartichoke > Coty 11/21/2014 at 10:50

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I think that is the wrong car for the analogy. It needs a little more of this.

Tripper > burntartichoke 11/21/2014 at 10:54

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They work well enough, I'd rather live in the US than most other places.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 11:01

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Politics in the US can be described as thus: Whatever either 'side' is for, the other is against. Even when both are in agreement.

crowmolly > Tripper 11/21/2014 at 11:02

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Agreed. There are a few other places that are just as good (IMO) but different in some ways. There is no shortage of places that are notably worse.

duurtlang > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 11/21/2014 at 11:11

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The major downside of a 2 party system.

ttyymmnn > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 11:11

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- Brooke McEldowney

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 11:11

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Politics in the US is based on a legalized/tax deductible form of bribery called "lobbying".

And those who have the most money to bribe the most politicians usually get their way.

And that essentially means politicians are prostitutes... vote-prostitutes.

That's how the US political system more or less works as I have observed it.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 11/21/2014 at 11:14

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The funny thing is that in most cases we all want the same thing, we just have different opinions of how that goal should be reached.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 11:16

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As a couple of people have already said, politics are politics no matter where you are.

Admittedly, the U.S. does it FAR better than much of the world.

Having said that, I studied politics in college and worked in the field through an internship and volunteering on campaigns for a few years. I now work in marketing for the auto industry, and I'm much happier. haha Although, I could see myself getting involved in politics again later in life, but likely on an international level with an NGO or non-profit.

505Turbeaux > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/21/2014 at 11:17

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my brethren in working in marketing for the auto industry. Which tier?

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 11:20

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Aftermarket division at one of the major automotive parts manufacturers. Although I'd love to work for either an OE or a racing company/organization one day. You?

505Turbeaux > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/21/2014 at 11:24

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Tier 2 and 3 dealers and associations. director of digital marketing. Soon to be leaving though to jump out of the auto industry

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/21/2014 at 11:25

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I know. Which is why it's so hilariously hopeless that we can't get anything done.

At the moment it's really only one party that exists only to stop everything. Not that both are perfect, but we really have a few people claiming to represent a vast majority who have done nothing but state how against everything they are, but have done little positive to accomplish anything of value.

People, as in us humans not politicians, can still disagree and solve problems or fix things.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 11:26

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Right on. What industry are you moving to?

My job before this was working for a marketing company that handled social media marketing and online reputation management for dealerships.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 11/21/2014 at 11:27

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Yeah, it's really a very interesting and complex system. I think the media plays a huge part in the polarizing the political realm, because their representation of the political parties is always the extremes of both sides. That is more frustrating to me than anything.

505Turbeaux > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/21/2014 at 11:28

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more to the development side of things, across all industries. I need to stay away from auto projects for a few years though to not violate my NDA I have here.

Man rep management for dealers is tough stuff. I stay far away from that line

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/21/2014 at 11:30

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Agreed.

The sad reality is if there wasn't someone getting filthy rich from all this political standstill, it wouldn't be so 'broken.'

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 11:33

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Yeah, reading hundreds of online reviews for dealerships every day could get pretty discouraging for awhile. Eventually I just learned to laugh at it all. haha

505Turbeaux > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/21/2014 at 11:36

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I have always said if you need to pay someone to manage your reputation for your dealership, there is something else wrong there. A few bad reviews is typical anything else and you are doing it wrong

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > 505Turbeaux 11/21/2014 at 11:40

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Oh man, some of those guys had absolutely NO idea how to manage their dealership's reputation and handle dissatisfied customers. I can't tell you how many times I had to tell a manager that attacking a customer's character on their social media pages is an absolute no-no.

I've found that a significant portion of the problems brought up in negative reviews tend to be the fault of the customer, and they're lashing back at the dealership for their own mistakes. Interestingly enough, one of my accounts was one of the top Honda dealers in the country and they got negative reviews all the time.

Party-vi > burntartichoke 11/21/2014 at 11:53

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Subsidized gas

Loopholes for corporate taxes

Joke of a minimum wage

Bank deregulation

Ballooning healthcare costs

I'd say politics works quite well in the US. Trading more campaign dollars and personal wealth for increased corporate profits and the cost of the citizens has never been better here.

KirkyV > duurtlang 11/21/2014 at 11:56

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While I'll agree that the two-party model is inherently flawed, it should be noted that the UK operated under a fairly strict two-party system for years - we're in the middle of a rather messy transition to a multiparty system now right now - and went in pretty much exactly the opposite direction to the US system.

The reason - outside of the wave of right-wing dickery that seems to be sweeping all of Europe at the moment - we're transitioning to a multiparty system is that the two major parties had become so similar to one-another that voters no longer felt they had any real choice.